Ebay bans use of Nochex for payment to force use of paypal, big company abuses their monopoly. |
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http://pages.ebay.co.uk/help/policies/acce...nts-policy.html
Ebay have recently changed their aceepted payment policy to push paypal harder -'online payments are the best / easiest / safest ra ra ra' - which is untrue, but anyway, whiilst reading, I noticed Nochex was also now on the 'banned' list. Nochex, a UK based company setup by the NatWest IIRC! Who'd you rather handled your money? Paypal, a shyster company run as a monopoly with no real regulation and a parent company who pushes it's use as fait acompli, or Nochex, setup by a bank, regulated by the FSA and generally well regarded. I think I'll complain to trading standards and anyone who'll listen.  Richard p.s I don't actually use nochex, I just object to ebay/paypal squeezing them out to force the use of paypal. edit - more info: http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threa...d=1152469525681 http://forums.ebay.co.uk/thread.jspa?threa...120&start=0 This post has been edited by fluffcat1: Jul 11 2006, 13:59 -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jul 11 2006, 14:05
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Can absolutely understand where you're coming from Fluffcat1...
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Jul 11 2006, 22:41
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Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 330 Joined: 25th January 2005 From: London - U.K. Member No.: 106,723 Device(s): MDA Compact 3 |
As soon as Google roll out their Auction/Payment products ...... Ebay & PayPal will be history ..... GOOD !!
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Jul 11 2006, 23:09
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 Abre Los Ojos  Group: Posters Posts: 758 Joined: 14th February 2003 From: NewcastleGateshead Member No.: 2,830 Device(s): HTC TyTn II |
Ebay also banned use of Google's payment system .... http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/11/ebay_nochex_fallout/
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Jul 12 2006, 01:57
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This is why I tried to use other auction sites (yahoo auction notably). Sadly so few of us did they're mostly dead now.
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Jul 12 2006, 22:01
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Not Really a Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 282 Joined: 8th October 2004 From: North Carolina, U.S.A. Member No.: 59,703 Device(s): Motorola Q |
Best way to fight that is to use checks, money orders and the like to bypass PayPal altogether. Unfortunately, those who can't be trusted ruin it for the rest.
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Jul 12 2006, 22:05
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(scottb @ Jul 12 2006, 23:01)  Best way to fight that is to use checks, money orders and the like to bypass PayPal altogether. Unfortunately, those who can't be trusted ruin it for the rest. Sadly I think the writing is on the wall for ebay insisting *all* payments go through paypal eventually. They push paypal so hard as it is, most people will go for the path of least resistance and use it.  Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jul 12 2006, 22:11
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 Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 345 Joined: 31st January 2005 From: Birmingham Member No.: 107,696 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
QUOTE(Perfectionist @ Jul 11 2006, 23:41) As soon as Google roll out their Auction/Payment products ...... Ebay & PayPal will be history ..... GOOD !! Yeah I second that! I love the google philosophy, and if their payment products are as fairly priced when they're released here in the UK as they are the US at the moment, paypal is going to have some serious competition at last. Just need google to create an auction service now. How about g-bay?? -------------------- Anthony Chaffey
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Jul 12 2006, 22:36
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 Editor Dude Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,715 Joined: 23rd April 2003 From: Leicester, UK Member No.: 4,973 Device(s): SPV M700 / E650 |
i'd use that! just lost £17 to ebay/paypal in fees for my phone.
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Jul 12 2006, 22:36
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QUOTE(adchaffey @ Jul 12 2006, 23:11) Yeah I second that! I love the google philosophy, and if their payment products are as fairly priced when they're released here in the UK as they are the US at the moment, paypal is going to have some serious competition at last. Just need google to create an auction service now. How about g-bay?? g-bay would be cool, not so sure it will happen soon tho. didn't they buy craigs list to enter into the buying and selling of items? just items at a fixed price not auction. also I think google checkout is primarily meant to aid adwords customers, not as a universal payment method 'for all' -------------------- - spacerace -
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Jul 12 2006, 22:57
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(spacerace @ Jul 12 2006, 23:36) g-bay would be cool, not so sure it will happen soon tho. didn't they buy craigs list to enter into the buying and selling of items? just items at a fixed price not auction. I thought ebay were an investor in craigslist, not google?... Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jul 13 2006, 08:09
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 345 Joined: 31st January 2005 From: Birmingham Member No.: 107,696 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
QUOTE(spacerace @ Jul 12 2006, 23:36) also I think google checkout is primarily meant to aid adwords customers, not as a universal payment method 'for all' AFAIK Google checkout is simply an online payment gateway similar to the likes of paypal, worldpay etc etc. Only it uses the same policies as paypal allowing users to register their details inc. payment details/bank details enabling them to pay for things more easily without having to enter their card details every time. It is a universal payment method, but the intention is to also promote adwords customers that use this payment method by adding a little cart symbol to their adwords advert, hopefully encouraging customers to use them because of the ease of purchasing. -------------------- Anthony Chaffey
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Jul 13 2006, 11:42
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looks like there's been a change of heart at eBay:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/ebay_oks_nochex/ -------------------- |
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Jul 13 2006, 12:11
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(travisb @ Jul 13 2006, 12:42) looks like there's been a change of heart at eBay: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/07/13/ebay_oks_nochex/ Glad somebody at ebay listens.....: EDIT : In the interestes of fairness I should point out that my eBay registration is held at ebay.com and not eBay.co.uk ( as eBay.co.uk didn't exist at the time I joined) so the c.s rep may have assumed I was writing from the US. Dear fluffcat1, Thank you for writing eBay in regard to PayPal as an unfavored payment method. I want to assure you that sellers retain the right and remain able to accept checks from their buyers as a means of paying for auction winnings. There is no 'no checks' policy in force at ebay. It is my pleasure to assist you. Thank you for choosing eBay. Sincerely, Aidan eBay Customer Support Original Message Follows: ------------------------- Form Message %44453% 121498 D_ID071120060650D_ID/W_ID71603337W_ID/S_ID003S_ID Subject: IV=C00232 The problem you're having with unpaid items isn't listed [A97 #US US 01000T !11100! 102897 ?01 -00 ] User Feedback: 1833 User State: ?01 Browser Info: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727) Selling and Managing Your Item > Unpaid item concerns and appeals > The problem you're having with unpaid items isn't listed Member or Item being reported: none 0 Message: You've banned Nochex? That stinks! Forcing us to use paypal for online payments! Terrible This post has been edited by fluffcat1: Jul 13 2006, 12:23 -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jul 13 2006, 12:39
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