3 and T-Mobile Network Sharing Deal, Apologies if already covered... |
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Not a Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 166 Joined: 30th December 2003 From: somewhere between sanity and a black hole Member No.: 26,573 Device(s): MDA Touch Plus & 6120 (3)  |
bit of an old thread but a couple of things to note about this.
Three has more 3g sites than t-mobile at the moment. the big win for three is 2g roaming will be a lot cheaper for them than it is currently. the win for t-mobile is they are getting better 3g coverage by using existing three base stations. they both win in the fact that the upgrade costs will be reduced. An interesting point about a takeover bid but i doubt HW will sell any time soon. --------------------  |
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May 19 2008, 15:58
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It is indeed an old thread, but still relevant I hope.
I must admit, I haven't seen any miraculous improvement in T's signal as yet. 
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May 21 2008, 12:56
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 176 Joined: 30th July 2005 Member No.: 141,775 Device(s): E71, Touch Dual |
QUOTE(Br1an_g @ May 19 2008, 13:27)  bit of an old thread but a couple of things to note about this. Three has more 3g sites than t-mobile at the moment. the big win for three is 2g roaming will be a lot cheaper for them than it is currently. the win for t-mobile is they are getting better 3g coverage by using existing three base stations. they both win in the fact that the upgrade costs will be reduced. An interesting point about a takeover bid but i doubt HW will sell any time soon. But the network sharing agreement is for 3G services only. Therefore 3 won't get 2g roaming on T-Mobile, it'll continue to use Orange/O2. I think the win for them is that the costs of maintenance get significantly reduced therefore they might actually make a profit one of these days... I'm on 3 and in my flat (North London) I get a poor signal, about 1 bar, but the T-Mobile signal is full strength, therefore I'm hoping that where I live they'll decide to use the T-Mobile site! Does anyone know of time scales of when the networks will be fully integrated? |
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May 22 2008, 14:38
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Not a Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 166 Joined: 30th December 2003 From: somewhere between sanity and a black hole Member No.: 26,573 Device(s): MDA Touch Plus & 6120 (3) |
QUOTE(nuttyphilt @ May 21 2008, 13:56) But the network sharing agreement is for 3G services only. Therefore 3 won't get 2g roaming on T-Mobile, it'll continue to use Orange/O2. I think the win for them is that the costs of maintenance get significantly reduced therefore they might actually make a profit one of these days... I'm on 3 and in my flat (North London) I get a poor signal, about 1 bar, but the T-Mobile signal is full strength, therefore I'm hoping that where I live they'll decide to use the T-Mobile site! Does anyone know of time scales of when the networks will be fully integrated? just re-read the official press release and it does say t-mobiles 2g network wont be shared. not what i heard at a presentation on the matter.  and if you check the HWL 2007 results, three made an operational profit last year  completion in just over 2 years was also on the press release, so 2010 is about right. -------------------- |
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May 25 2008, 21:00
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QUOTE(Br1an_g @ May 22 2008, 15:38) just re-read the official press release and it does say t-mobiles 2g network wont be shared. not what i heard at a presentation on the matter. and if you check the HWL 2007 results, three made an operational profit last year completion in just over 2 years was also on the press release, so 2010 is about right. Don't count on this meeting those time scales. The first part of the plan is to replace the NEC base stations in 3's network with Nokia equipment, these are in the south of the UK. The roll out for these sites was to have started at the end of April, but has yet to start. It was due to have completed in 2 years, but have very little chance of meeting that deadline now. From what I am hearing it will only be the core network that is shared, the base stations will still be for either 3 or T-mobile. They are installing dual network RNC's and this is where they are having problems, the software isn't working. As for saving money on maintenance, that is already contracted out to ericsson, with the last of T-mobiles staff fully moving over to Ericsson in the last couple of weeks. I wouldn't be surprised if this doesn't go the same way as the Orange/Vodfone network share. |
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Aug 19 2008, 09:15
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Not a Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 166 Joined: 30th December 2003 From: somewhere between sanity and a black hole Member No.: 26,573 Device(s): MDA Touch Plus & 6120 (3) |
an old thread again..realised 3 will save on 2g roaming as they will have 98% 3g coverage so there will be no need for 2g roaming..lol
i though the network share was rolled out already in a few cities? and was working ok? -------------------- |
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Aug 19 2008, 09:25
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 Peanut Brain  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 6,343 Joined: 10th September 2004 From: Surrey, England Member No.: 56,072 Device(s): iPhone 8Gb. Athena, C600 |
The point is the network coverage will not change. they are not sharing base stations. The end user won't see any difference.
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Sep 8 2008, 19:04
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I thought I'd give this a bump for my own interest...
I'm on T-Mobile, nothing on 3G or HSDPA at my home address and little sign of T-Mobile looking to get our 2G network upgraded to 3G in my area :angry Girl that live next door is on 3 network, lovely 3G signal from her house, I thought the network share agreement would allow areas like mine to use the 3 network and if some area where 3 have no 3G coverage they would use T-Mobiles, and piggyback deal of sorts. Is this not the case ? |
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Oct 12 2008, 17:11
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 29 Joined: 28th December 2007 Member No.: 338,175 |
What I am seeing on the ground is 3 cabins being removed and the equipment being relocated into the nearest T-mobile cabin or at least planned to. Both networks remain seperate, but go up the same antenna.
This is only happening on certain sites, of the work I do only around 10% are designated as site shares. |
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Oct 12 2008, 17:14
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 29 Joined: 28th December 2007 Member No.: 338,175 |
QUOTE(Retronana @ Sep 8 2008, 20:04) I thought I'd give this a bump for my own interest... I thought the network share agreement would allow areas like mine to use the 3 network and if some area where 3 have no 3G coverage they would use T-Mobiles, and piggyback deal of sorts. Is this not the case ? What they will do is install 3 equipment in the local T-mobile site. The big stumbling block is BT, they need to provide new links and they take forever. |
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