Are the iraqi people getting cheated again ? |
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 May 8 2003, 13:25
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3009251.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/3009843.stm http://dearraed.blogspot.com/ I think the Iraqi money should be going to the Iraqi people and not to the US in form of contracts, legal cases, etc. I know the wars is all over but seeing all the Iraqi money head towards American Businesses seems like they are just being cheated again. |
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May 8 2003, 15:22
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Erm... Did anyone really think it was gonna be otherwise??
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May 8 2003, 18:04
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hey... if I come to your house and mow your grass because you can't do it for yourself, I expect to be paid. If I come to your friggin' country, remove a dictator who killed an average of 83 Iraqi's a day and give you back the freedom to worship and do as you please without fear of being killed in the middle of town in front of your family, I'd expect at a minimum, for Iraq to cover the damn expenses.
Jeesh... if this were a computer helpdesk call, can you imagine how much the cost would be for that?! We're not even asking for a delivery fee!!! Everybody wants something for nothing... Damn ingrates. What... are you French?!?! -Mc |
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May 8 2003, 20:16
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 103 Joined: 22nd March 2003 From: London Member No.: 3,691 |
Look mate no one disagree that Saddam was an evil guy, so get off your high horse for a moment. You talk about freedom to do as you please, so lets ask why George Galloway in the UK has now been suspended from the Labour Party for having an antiwar stance. Yeah thats really free and democratic isn't !
Nice of you to compare a war to cutting grass, or delivering a PC ! And really how does it matter if I am French, German, British, or American. Are French people not allowed a viewpoint in your "freedom to worship and do as you please" world ? This war wasn't fought because they cared that "83 Iraqi's a day" were being killed by Sanctions or Saddam, it was because the Companies that are now getting the business contracts happened to see dollar signs ! I am sure other people in other countries getting killed each day would be just as grateful if they were liberated even if there wasn't a way they could cover the "damn expenses".... |
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May 8 2003, 21:38
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The UK isn't the US so don't ask me about suspending someone from the Labour Party because of his views. I have no idea. Your laws aren't the same as ours. Your government can do what it pleases... You guys don't have the same freedoms we have over here. Look at Pete Townsend. Found not guilty of child porn but still listen on the national register of sex offendors. In the US, that wouldn't have happened.
but... Find me an Iraqi civilian who is complaining to have to spend money and oil that then never, ever had until now to get rid of Sadam. Everyone that is complaining about the war is everyone EXCEPT Iraq. I'm very sure 99% of them are excited to have the ability to not have to have their Children enslaved because they don't want to join Sadam's pansy regime. Sadam kept the food from the food for oil program locked away from them. He stole 1/3 of the entire country's monetary backing before he ran away scared. He ordered his men to destroy all of the nation's oil (the country's ONLY source of income). As far as the French, I won't even go there. France is as bad as Sadam, if not worse. They supplied Sadam with 100% of the confidential information up until and during the war. They supplied the top Iraqi echelon with European Union passports so they could move about Europe freely. They supplied Iraq with their weapons. Aren't you Brits the least bit pissed about what some vandals did to your buried soldiers in France? I was. I have relatives buried over there that died for their cheese and wines. I'm American by birth but my heritage is in Europe. I travel back at least twice a year. Before you go off on your high horse asking if the US is screwing Iraq, find me an Iraqi citizen who feels screwed since the war was over. If you ever find that, than we'll have a legitimate question with some substance. If you can't, it's merely a speculative comment meant to demean the efforts of the American/British/Australian/etc. troops. People pay money every day to throw a baseball at a little bullseye to knock someone into a dunk tank. What's the price to have the ability to smack a likeness of Sadam with the bottom of your shoe? The Iraqi people want to live and be free. -Mc Hey, do you know why France has such tall trees? Because during war, the Germans like to march in the shade. p.s. I do realize that all French aren't bad just like all the Germans can't be blamed for the concentration camps. |
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May 8 2003, 22:07
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Play nice all
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May 8 2003, 22:42
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Ermm.. and you say you can find an Iraqi that thinks you're all that great freeing them blabla??! Get to grips man! It's not about ppl, but $$ big$$. Can you prove otherwise, or US through away $100bn because they care for Iraqis??
Ok, how about BinLaden?? Does he exist? Is he really what he's said to be by our precious information sources?? (I wonder who controls them :roll: ) Oh, and I don't hear much bout Iraq now that the war is over... Is it forgotten just as Afgan? Do you know how life is there now? Doubt it.. By the way, if you don't mind me asking, who do you think won the WWII? -------------------- .:: PocketMVP Skins :: Marcelo :: WinMedia :: Marcelo2 :: DeepcleanSP ::.
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May 9 2003, 00:40
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lets hope galloway gets the book thrown at him
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May 9 2003, 00:48
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You and I both agree Saddam was evil, but as you suggest lets hear from one "Iraqi citizen who feels screwed" or maybe a few thousand will actually convince you.
20,000 people marched through the city chanting "No to America, No to Saddam." http://sg.news.yahoo.com/030415/1/3a3es.html You now need to keep your word as by your own rules this is now a "legitimate question with some substance". Okay lets start with Amnesty International “There seems to be have been more preparation to protect the oil wells than to protect hospitals, water systems or civilians,” http://www.amnesty.org "It’s amazing how the US was able to protect to oil installations but not cultural installations,” Henry said in a reference to the widespread looting of a Baghdads museums." Texas University professor of government, Clement Henry You say "The UK isn't the US so don't ask me about suspending someone from the Labour Party because of his views. I have no idea." Don't you realise this is part of the problem. We are swamped with US Culture but I think you guys seems to be missing out on the rest of the world culture. Well lets forget about the UK then. Dixie Chicks - Is that close enough for you to realise you are not allowed a voice in the US if it goes againsts the norm. So people are a bit worried when you say you bring freedom to the Iraqi people. When you can't even practice it in your own country why would you allow it in another ? And with regards to your hatred of the French and them Selling Weapons. Do you have any idea how much the US sold to Iraq ? Hey I'll let you do the research on that, but here is a link to Rory Bremner - If you get a chance watch the Iraq Special online. It is quite educational. Here is a quote from the Channel 4 website for his show (its one of the main terrestrial channels in the UK) "The Americans see the chance to bring traditional Western values to the Middle East (aka the guys with the diapers on their heads): democracy (from the people who brought you George W Bush); freedom (from the people who brought you Guantanamo Bay) and economic prosperity (from the people who bought you Enron)." http://www.channel4.com/news/2003/special_...hard_place.html All I am saying mate is I think your government has taken the US public on a ride (or "Crusade" as your leader likes to call it) so it can fill its pockets. It was never about bringing freedom, it was always about filling pockets. If it was about freedom then they would be allowing the Iraqi's to run their own country instead of dishing out their money. Saddam stole their money. Now it's someone elses turn ! |
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May 9 2003, 08:11
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QUOTE lets hope galloway gets the book thrown at him Why? Because he did not and will not accept Western/US Imperialism? Because he actually puts human life before Imperial greed? If we had a nation of "yes" men, we would not have a democracy. Thank God there are people who are willing to speak against a government hell bent on "americanising" Europe, Asia and Africa. Benzo |
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May 9 2003, 16:25
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QUOTE Why? Because he did not and will not accept Western/US Imperialism? Because he actually puts human life before Imperial greed? Hmm, not sure you quite have the measure of our philanthropic and humaniarian Mr Galloway. |
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May 9 2003, 16:33
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i think in georgeous george you have the epitomy of imperial greed, from what i have read he would take money from anyone anywhere.
By the way i just love the footage of his salutations to saddam hussein and the way afterwards he tried to claim he was talking about the iraqi people! 
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Sep 4 2003, 09:54
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If the UK kills 83 people a day in NHS waiting lists (not saying it does, but just suppose...) will the generous Americans come and rid us of Tony?
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Sep 4 2003, 10:08
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Only to be replaced with Ian Duncan Smith and/or Bush? No ta...
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Sep 4 2003, 10:29
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