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Jan 27 2006, 18:29
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 27th January 2006 Member No.: 169,594 |
Hi all,
I'm (for my sins) employed by Orange UK in the Business Solutions Team. I'll try to answer any questions you may have about Orange, what is going on, and what is coming up. |
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Jan 27 2006, 19:32
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 370 Joined: 11th January 2006 From: North Essex Member No.: 167,028 Device(s): HTC Touch HD Twitter: @mwright_tw |
I'm (for my sins) employed by Orange UK in the Business Solutions Team. I'll try to answer any questions you may have about Orange, what is going on, and what is coming up. Oh dear - let the flood gates open!! Ok - heres mine! Why do Orange seem to think more of their PAYG customers than the Contract ones? As a contract customer of 7 years, I appear to be able to get a much better deal by leaving and rejoining than I can ever hope to get by extending! Any comments on that one? -------------------- |
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Jan 27 2006, 20:00
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 27th January 2006 Member No.: 169,594 |
Why do Orange seem to think more of their PAYG customers than the Contract ones? As a contract customer of 7 years, I appear to be able to get a much better deal by leaving and rejoining than I can ever hope to get by extending! Hi. I don't think they do. Prepay is not a lucrative part of the market. Contract is where all the money is made. It will always be the same, whereever you go, that new customers get a better deal. Because the market is flooded now the only way to win in this game is through churn. Taking customers from your competitors. Have you tried speaking to Retentions? You can reach them on 0800 079 2288. Depending on certain factors such as monthly spend and contract length, you will be offered different things. For example, a friend of mine called through and got 400 mins and 1000 texts a month for ?30. I won't say you will get the same deal, but you do not know if you do not ask. Hope that helps. |
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Feb 5 2006, 16:38
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![]() Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,495 Favorited Topics: 4 Joined: 6th August 2005 From: Pontypridd, Wales Member No.: 143,011 Device(s): SPV M1500 & SPV C550 |
Probably way too early to say but will they include WiFi in their future smartphone handsets?
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Feb 5 2006, 22:50
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 27th January 2006 Member No.: 169,594 |
I'd imagine so. The SPV M2000 has WiFi, I think the SPV M5000 does too. If you mean for smaller phones (C550 etc), I'll see what I can find out tomorrow.
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Feb 7 2006, 16:22
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![]() AKA 'jlowap' MoDaCo Old Skool Group: Posters Posts: 3,569 Joined: 12th February 2003 From: North Devon, UK Member No.: 2,777 Device(s): Errr, well.. iPhone & HD2 |
Hi. I don't think they do. Prepay is not a lucrative part of the market. Contract is where all the money is made. It will always be the same, whereever you go, that new customers get a better deal. Because the market is flooded now the only way to win in this game is through churn. Taking customers from your competitors. Have you tried speaking to Retentions? You can reach them on 0800 079 2288. Depending on certain factors such as monthly spend and contract length, you will be offered different things. For example, a friend of mine called through and got 400 mins and 1000 texts a month for ?30. I won't say you will get the same deal, but you do not know if you do not ask. Hope that helps. Really! i was a customer for 8 years, on the last year i was on a Orange Premiere account with a 8MB? GPRS bundle and a text bundle with a spend of beteween ?70 to ?140 a month and when i left in jan they did not care... not even any nice offers like i have recieved in past years... somthing is going on for sure!? any clues on that? cheers! -------------------- James Lovell
Microsoft Windows Mobile Specialist 2009 And ive got a certificate to prove it :P Get Your HTC Touch DIAMOND 2! or TOUCH HD HERE! |
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Feb 7 2006, 19:16
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 27th January 2006 Member No.: 169,594 |
I can't comment on individual occasions such as you have described. Sorry.
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Feb 8 2006, 08:48
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![]() Did I say that out loud? Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 4,674 Joined: 20th August 2003 From: Kent, England Member No.: 13,469 Device(s): Hero MCR2.6 Twitter: @chucky_egg |
...the only way to win in this game is through churn. Taking customers from your competitors. Surely that's the basic mistake Orange (and the others are making).. There is no "Win", and the way to get ahead is to take customers from your competitors, whilst keeping as many of your own as you can It's the second part that Orange in particular dont seem to get. |
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Feb 8 2006, 13:01
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![]() Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,465 Joined: 26th November 2002 From: Nottingham Member No.: 137 Device(s): MDA Vario 3 |
Just remember, a business needs to identify and keep their Good customers. A good customer is one who doesn't demand for example a 50% discount year upon year...
Sometimes you just have to cut your losses. That seems to be Oranges view on the market at the moment anyway, and can't say I agree to the same extent. I've recently left the company, the retail sector has become unbearable - being forced to sell 18 month contracts to customers who don't want/need them etc was the icing on the cake for me. FT was the nail in the coffin for the death of Oranges innovation and customer focused approach! -------------------- "I'm sorry you'll have to speak up - i'm wearing a towel"
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Feb 8 2006, 13:30
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![]() Mobiholics Staff Group: Moderator Team Posts: 2,114 Joined: 31st December 2004 From: Near Norwich, UK Member No.: 104,092 Device(s): HTC HD2 Twitter: @mobiholics |
Howdy AzH, regarding PAYG getting better deal than Contract - as we know, on PAYG you get unlimited GPRS for ?1 a day.
Is there any plans for it to happen for Pay Monthly contract? Thank you. -------------------- - Tony Sutton
- My Ford Focus ST170 car - Got Phone, GPS and WiFi together? Sign up & Make Money with Navizon! Check out Mobiholics.com - Mobiholics is the place to go for all non Windows Mobile related mobile talk - discussing networks, non WinMo devices etc. As part of the MoDaCo.network, your existing MoDaCo login automagically works over there too! |
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Feb 8 2006, 13:30
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![]() Mobiholics Staff Group: Moderator Team Posts: 2,114 Joined: 31st December 2004 From: Near Norwich, UK Member No.: 104,092 Device(s): HTC HD2 Twitter: @mobiholics |
Howdy AzH, regarding PAYG getting better deal than Contract - as we know, on PAYG you get unlimited GPRS for ?1 a day.
Is there any plans for it to happen for Pay Monthly contract? Thank you. |
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Feb 8 2006, 14:47
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Newbie Group: Members Posts: 0 Joined: 27th January 2006 Member No.: 169,594 |
QUOTE FT was the nail in the coffin for the death of Oranges innovation and customer focused approach! 100% correct. Orange is little more than a cash cow for France Telecom. I wish they'd sell us. QUOTE Is there any plans for it to happen for Pay Monthly contract? I'll see what I can find out for you tomorrow. |
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Feb 9 2006, 09:56
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![]() Mobiholics Staff Group: Moderator Team Posts: 2,114 Joined: 31st December 2004 From: Near Norwich, UK Member No.: 104,092 Device(s): HTC HD2 Twitter: @mobiholics |
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Feb 10 2006, 09:30
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![]() Mobiholics Staff Group: Moderator Team Posts: 2,114 Joined: 31st December 2004 From: Near Norwich, UK Member No.: 104,092 Device(s): HTC HD2 Twitter: @mobiholics |
Any update?
Thanks. |
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Feb 10 2006, 15:50
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 248 Joined: 26th January 2003 Member No.: 2,335 |
I'd like to know why Data rates are rediculously high. I have an M5000 and have been using the 'try 3G' for two months now, and have found it great but it will be too expensive after the try ends.
I think the UK operators are making a mistake pricing data so high, sooo many people I know are scared of touching their "Orange World" button or "Vodafone Live" button on their phone cz they link it immediately to high costs. So there'll be people out there who'll never even try it. I'm gonna be worried when my try period ends because my M5000 has a nasty habit of connecting to the net without me knowing despite trying to close programs that would automatically try to connect. I think there should be an option in the phone to disable it or allow it to ask you 'do you wish to connect?' Besides that, I'm very happy with Orange's services and products. Especially Orange Care. Glyn -------------------- We judge ourselves by what we think we can achieve while others judge us by what we've already done.
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Feb 10 2006, 16:13
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 76 Joined: 19th December 2004 Member No.: 102,768 |
Have you tried speaking to Retentions? You can reach them on 0800 079 2288. Depending on certain factors such as monthly spend and contract length, you will be offered different things. For example, a friend of mine called through and got 400 mins and 1000 texts a month for ?30. I won't say you will get the same deal, but you do not know if you do not ask. Hope that helps. I'm in a similar situation. Have been with Orange for approx. 7 years on the same number. Tried retentions for an upgrade from a C500 to a C600 and the best they could offer me was ?80 (?30 more than the website and exactly the same as upgrades!). No minutes or texts or anything. My monthly spend is ?29-?30 and I've had my C500 for 14 months. |
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Feb 10 2006, 18:50
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![]() Regular Group: Posters Posts: 132 Joined: 19th June 2003 Member No.: 8,417 Device(s): Orange SPV C500 |
Surely that's the basic mistake Orange (and the others are making).. There is no "Win", and the way to get ahead is to take customers from your competitors, whilst keeping as many of your own as you can It's the second part that Orange in particular dont seem to get. That is soooooooooo true chucky.egg. The key to it IS also keeping your current customer base!! They had the adverts on the telly with the wise man telling the big execs at Orange how to keep the customers happy, obviously the real directors are as brain dead as the actor portrayed because they do not practice what they preach. The tech support is my main bug bare, they are totally uselesss. How many times do you have to remove your SIM card, do a dance, pat your head, whistle a tune and reset the phone before they accept it's got a fault! It's also hit and miss to weather or not you get a helpfull / knowledgable CS operator. Come on Orange (and all other operators as I suspect your all the same) sort it out, directors - Listen to what customers are saying! Orange.......Best of a bad bunch - Unfortunately! JB |
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Feb 10 2006, 23:27
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Feb 11 2006, 09:46
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![]() Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 471 Joined: 1st June 2004 From: Ipswich, UK Member No.: 45,194 Device(s): iphone Twitter: @robgordon |
I'd like to know if/when the Single Number facility will be available to personal customers, and not just business ones. It's a feature I would LOVE, and it's on 02 and Vodafone already....
Someone on the Premier CS did say they had heard it was "coming" but that I'd have to ring approx once a month to keep asking. I've rung twice now since Dec but no joy. I did consider moving to a business just to get the feature, but I couldn't find as good a deal as the Premier tariff I'm on now, so held fast. -------------------- |
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Feb 11 2006, 16:25
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![]() iSpork Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 549 Joined: 15th February 2005 From: Lichfield Member No.: 110,894 Device(s): HTC Desire Twitter: @nickbrickett |
Hi guys, I'm a Senior Phone Trainer from an Orange Shop, so again, if anyone needs any orange-related help or tech advice, there's a couple of us around to PM
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