Stolen mobiles 'will be blocked' |
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 Jul 28 2006, 12:13
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Around 80% of mobile phones will be blocked on all five UK networks within 48 hours of being reported stolen in future, industry leaders have pledged.
The pledge is part of a charter aimed at reducing mobile phone crime launched by the Mobile Industry Crime Action Forum (MICAF) and phone networks. More here -------------------- - Tony Sutton
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Jul 28 2006, 12:23
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 Timelord Group: Posters Posts: 1,597 Joined: 6th September 2003 From: Gallifrey Member No.: 15,319 |
Makes you wonder WHY this hasn't been the case up to this point.
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Jul 28 2006, 13:29
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Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 372 Joined: 12th November 2005 Member No.: 158,124 Device(s): SP5 |
It was on the list for ages, but the networks didn't want to fork out for a shared database like alot of europe has.
Also they lost any lingering interest when phone insurance was completly handed off to third party companies - its a service they sell on behalf of insurance companies and not simply outsourced like before. Anyway looks like government pressure will force them to finally do it. |
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Jul 28 2006, 14:26
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 Regular  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 111 Joined: 9th December 2004 From: Oxford, UK Member No.: 101,100 Device(s): Vario II, Touch Plus |
I always thought that once reported stolen, the IMEI was blocked by all networks anyway. Obvioulsy I've been mistaken.
Now lets just hope that this new charter works correctly. |
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Jul 28 2006, 15:21
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 Did I say that out loud? Group: News Team Posts: 4,530 Joined: 20th August 2003 From: Kent, England Member No.: 13,469 Device(s): Kaiser, Touch |
No, you were right, but the time it took varied.
TBH though, from what I've heard, all the lost handsets end up in Europe anyway. Too little too late |
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Jul 28 2006, 19:22
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 Abre Los Ojos  Group: Posters Posts: 758 Joined: 14th February 2003 From: NewcastleGateshead Member No.: 2,830 Device(s): HTC TyTn II |
The system needs to be global, otherwise it is never gonna work, as blocked UK mobiles will continue to be ebayed out of the country. I have seen auctions admitting the phone is blocked from UK networks!
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Aug 6 2006, 07:09
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 358 Joined: 18th April 2006 From: Lichfield U.K Member No.: 185,611 Device(s): N95, C550, 360, PS3 |
QUOTE(pisquee @ Jul 28 2006, 20:22)  The system needs to be global, otherwise it is never gonna work, as blocked UK mobiles will continue to be ebayed out of the country. I have seen auctions admitting the phone is blocked from UK networks! Ah you make a great point there pisquee - but what i don't understand is how will they know which phone to block as my phone isn't registered or the sim come to that i bought the sim off lichfield market in Nov so how will they manage to block the phone when i don't know serial numbers or anything?? goochy1 --------------------  |
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Aug 6 2006, 10:41
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Enthusiast  Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 269 Joined: 11th January 2006 From: North Essex Member No.: 167,028 Device(s): Orange TyTNII |
QUOTE(goochy1 @ Aug 6 2006, 08:09) Ah you make a great point there pisquee - but what i don't understand is how will they know which phone to block as my phone isn't registered or the sim come to that i bought the sim off lichfield market in Nov so how will they manage to block the phone when i don't know serial numbers or anything?? goochy1 All you need to do is make a note of the IMEI number and give that to the network if it is stolen/lost. -------------------- |
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Aug 6 2006, 16:11
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 358 Joined: 18th April 2006 From: Lichfield U.K Member No.: 185,611 Device(s): N95, C550, 360, PS3 |
[quote name='mwright' date='Aug 6 2006, 11:41' post='3576']
All you need to do is make a note of the IMEI number Ok thanx where abouts would it be -------------------- |
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Aug 6 2006, 16:35
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Enthusiast Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 269 Joined: 11th January 2006 From: North Essex Member No.: 167,028 Device(s): Orange TyTNII |
[For some reason I could not reply]
Depends what phone you have. For Nokias at least you can enter *#06# and it will display the IMEI But I guess most phones have it on a printed label somewhere - probably inside under the battery -------------------- |
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Aug 6 2006, 17:06
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 358 Joined: 18th April 2006 From: Lichfield U.K Member No.: 185,611 Device(s): N95, C550, 360, PS3 |
QUOTE(mwright @ Aug 6 2006, 17:35) [For some reason I could not reply] Depends what phone you have. For Nokias at least you can enter *#06# and it will display the IMEI But I guess most phones have it on a printed label somewhere - probably inside under the battery I have a nokia 6230 -------------------- |
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Aug 6 2006, 18:45
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 Peanut Brain Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 6,343 Joined: 10th September 2004 From: Surrey, England Member No.: 56,072 Device(s): iPhone 8Gb. Athena, C600 |
*#06# works with ALL phones unless I'm mistaken.
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Aug 7 2006, 00:50
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 372 Joined: 12th November 2005 Member No.: 158,124 Device(s): SP5 |
QUOTE(ricardo the fish @ Jul 28 2006, 14:26) I always thought that once reported stolen, the IMEI was blocked by all networks anyway. Obvioulsy I've been mistaken. That was the plan some years ago - there was suposed to be a global database setup in northern ireland, but it never materialised. If your phone is reported stolen it usually only gets blocked on that one network. Recently (a few years) phone insurance moved from being owned by the phone networks to being outsourced. More recently it moved to third party companies and the phone networks offered to sell you their policies. These insurance companies would offer policies on multiple networks and so would have access to block handsets on multiple networks. Consequently if your phone is insured, it will get blocked on ALL UK networks. If its not, it will only be blocked on the one network you're on. QUOTE(chucky.egg @ Jul 28 2006, 15:21) No, you were right, but the time it took varied. TBH though, from what I've heard, all the lost handsets end up in Europe anyway. Too little too late Well like i said it depends on the insurance situation... You're right most phones go to europe and some poor soul finds out when he tries to roam with it. QUOTE(pisquee @ Jul 28 2006, 19:22) The system needs to be global, otherwise it is never gonna work, as blocked UK mobiles will continue to be ebayed out of the country. I have seen auctions admitting the phone is blocked from UK networks! Your right, they really should have setup a global system like they are trying to in the US, and which they have partialy setup in europe. The problem is no one wants to pay for it, especially now with the uk market reaching saturation. QUOTE(goochy1 @ Aug 6 2006, 07:09) Ah you make a great point there pisquee - but what i don't understand is how will they know which phone to block as my phone isn't registered or the sim come to that i bought the sim off lichfield market in Nov so how will they manage to block the phone when i don't know serial numbers or anything?? goochy1 Well.. if the SIM is registered (or contract of course), then you report your phone stolen to your network, and they will block the SIM, AND the last handset it was used in. If you ask them not to block the handset they will get very suspicious but agree not to. If you're insured, when you attempt to claim on the insurance, they will block the handset you registered with them - of course you can't request for them not to! If your sim is not registered, then you CAN NOT ask your network to block your phone in this way since you can't authenticate with them and prove the sim is yours. Also you can't simply quote some IMEI and ask they block it, without proof the phone did belong to you. Otherwise that would leave room for a funny but very mean prank  If you have insurance, you will have registered the IMEI with them when you took it out, so the sim is irrelevant. In that case you can ask them to block it by making a claim. |
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Aug 7 2006, 06:29
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 358 Joined: 18th April 2006 From: Lichfield U.K Member No.: 185,611 Device(s): N95, C550, 360, PS3 |
Well done kam_
I bet that took you ages - ok cheers for the info goochy1 -------------------- |
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Aug 8 2006, 01:17
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 372 Joined: 12th November 2005 Member No.: 158,124 Device(s): SP5 |
hehe not really i used to work in the industry
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