Great, Now you're backing up the 'the best by far' statement with some actual valid reasoning. Well done. Thanks for the thoughts.

A 'small service interuption' in many situations will not be acceptable especially if the failure occurs at a critical time. For example, have you considered what would happen should your link fail while you are attempting to access your 'industrial control' device during it's operation?

Becuase there are other solutions that can load balence or switch over with *no* interuption they will in some cases be 'the best'. There are also CFR21.11 compliance issues in my case so like I said, it's a very subjective issue and doesn't need unreasoned 'it's the best' type comments - more a case of 'horses for courses'.

Well done on picking up the typo. Single R instead of double R. I type too fast for my Redfly keyboard to register some repeat digits. Oops, ya got me! But it is a widely known issue with the hardware... I'll try to be more observant.

Not really the same as confusing the meaning of a word though is it? [joke]Thankfully the latest redfly firmware has fixed that particular bug ... [/joke]

You've responded to a 3 month old thread on a topic that's been covered a few times. It's already been mentioned they do exist. I'm all for learning about new products but without any substantive description of why you find it the best etc just mentioning a model number is no better than linking to a google keyword search....



Good? I thought it was 'the best'? What happened? Service failure?....Firmware bug? Only kidding.


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The verb of toy means 'something to play with or consider':

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/toy

to toy (third-person singular simple present toys, present participle toying, simple past and past participle toyed)

To play with, to mock
Figo is toying with the English defence.

To ponder or consider.
I have been toying with the idea of starting my own business.

My point was that we are no longer at the considering or playing with them toying stage and actually use them live. But if that upset you or belittled you my apologies.

By all means mention new devices but please avoid 'the XYZABC is the BEST' without qualifying fully *why* as it's of no value, especially for a small brand that many are not familiar with in a market segment that has exploded in recent months / years.

Some people may have similar criteria so by all means share your opinion. The one feature you mention is common and more developed in a lot of the top end 3G routers and is limited in the mr-250 to only having sim / network redundancy - it only has 1 wireless stage so in effect is merely a complicated dual sim slot.

'Note: SIM 1 and SIM 2 cannot be used to access two networks simultaneously.' Page 13 of the manual.

So you don't get any real redundancy but you do get service interuption during changeover. That would defo rule out their products for some of our sites.

From googling and checking their website it's a new product line for them from March this year for the model you mention and last month for their new MRD series.
I'd rather not beta test / bug fix a new product for a small co. ( and they are small - their annual turnover as is €24 million and their wikipedia page is only in their native language and consists of the 6 lines of their website introduction!) and I can't see any firmware updates for this range so for me, this would count against the unit you mentioned, as there are established units that are more developed already out there.

But hey, just my thoughts.....

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They shouldn't charge you! It's in their interests to get you as a customer! Ask them first if they do.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porting_Authorisation_Code

For more info.

Used to take 30 days for a port to be processed, from experience it now takes about 3 and the changover happens on a specified day with an hour.

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Can it aggregate the two lines or is it fallover system? Topglobal's 3G/4G PCMCIA based units allow you to configure the redundancy various ways. Not *that* expensive either at about $1000 - the basic 1st gen PCMCIA based ethernet / wifi router MB6000 cost me £199 about 2 years ago but needed a PCMCIA card added to that.

http://www.topglobalusa.com/product01.asp







We have been using ( not toying with) 3G routers in live production environments for quite a while - over 3 years - and each solution has +/- points - to say one is 'best' is incorrect - it may be 'best for your needs' but it isn't going to be THE best.

Complicated doesn't always mean best. Which other ones have you tried to make that very subjective statement? Any chance of mini reviews for/against? ;-)


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Port out to a PAYG sim on another network, then port in as a 'new' customer...

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If you mean the e-topup card you can simply pickup a new one ( usually at the tills of supermarkets etc) and register it to your sim either online or over the phone. IIRC something like 5 cards can be registered to a PAYG sim before the system starts to fall over and you need to try to remove one.
My parents' 'expired' t-mobile one still works for topping up though. I don't think they actually expire as it's just an identification code linked to your phonenumber.

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It's out now.

http://threestore.three.co.uk/PAYG/default.aspx?id=1201

Made by Huawai and only works with Huawai '3' modems. Battery powered as well as mains seems a useful feature.

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Pic in the top post of 3's unit clearly shows an ethernet port. Haven't yet seen the 3 unit in the wild. Sadly t-mob's £99 one is wifi only. Many routers already have 3G dongle compatability ( and some also connect to symbian handsets with a USB cable but I've never tried one ;-) so this isn't exactly groundbreaking stuff.

http://www.mobiholics.com/content/the-loun...1256/3g-router/

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Unless it's free ( unlikely) then they'll ask for what, an extra £50 - £100 or so for it? And you still need a USB 3G modem under contract or PAYG so in reality they're just selling an accessory that's available elsewhere, most likely cheaper and not locked to use only a Three modem.

Vodacom / Linksys routers were locked and T-mobile's Wifi only 'broadband share 100' is locked to their own dongles - it looks pretty but how would you ever unlock without f/w updates etc?..and although free on £20 pm 18 month contracts with a dongle it's allegedly £99 'offline'.

I'll be giving it a miss unless it's cheap. There's better stuff out there with built in firewalls and more functionality etc and I have too many different dongles / PCMCIA cards to tie myself in with just one type / network with an overpriced network supplied router. Some routers allow you to use mobiles over the USB connection too.

Hardly a new market segment just diversification of the current one - they still need a USB broadband dongle to use it and that segment is key.

If you already have a router and windoze computers it's fairly simple to share a USB dongle anyway....

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It's just a wifi router with a USB socket. Hot new market segment?...had this type of thing for years......'Just insert your mobile broadband modem into the top of the router' so nothing special as many routers now have USB support - and it's not an all in one like the linksys / vodafone device from last year.

All very so-so...

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The 'business park' is about a mile from Collyhurst Police station.

"Collyhurst police station, Rochdale Road, Collyhurst, Manchester, M4 4JA. To contact your local Neighbourhood Policing Team call 0161 856 3925"

My office isn't far from there at the town end of Rochdale Road. That area is *rough* (although being redeveloped by Urban Splash) .....

Hindsight isn't much help here. I'm sure the OP has learnt a lesson now - but is £2k down.

But the prices are too tempting to resist. I've emailed asking for a price for 100 x Nokia N78....

IIRC with Western Union you have to specify the office they will collect from and the person has to show photo ID. Can you see where I'm going here?

I'd assume they use the Western Union agent nearest them. Sadly ( in terms of 'staking out' a premises) there is one in the very same business park - JK Cars, Unit 34..... I have a nasty feeling they are in on it as well.

Personnally to try to recover £2k I's spend £200 on a flight and come and see the guy in person to 'persuade' him to return the money. I doubt they'd leave it uncollected for long after it's available so shouldn't take long to find the guy.

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[Aff.] Is a good idea. TBH the amount of expansys sales / vouchers I use, the modaco ones make no difference - I have 20+ codes valid until the end of September on my desk from previous purchases from the last fortnight - I had assumed they would track modaco codes back and earn you commision - now that I don't mind.

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You said yourself overall it's still not great value yet proceed to skim off the top and call it news! From experience resellers who sell 3 products get high commision and will cut it down drastically if pressed. Affilates are unable to do this so the buyer is not able to negotiate a better deal.



Nice of them to take the time to insert your affilate links for you. Same with the eXpansys cookies - even just for LOOKING at your 'hey look at this clickthrough link' I get saddled with a long expiry date cookie until I clear them all - which can be a pain - so rather than getting a good deal myself you get commision on ANYTHING I subsequently buy from either places whether directly from your link or not. And yes, some expansys prices ARE lower without the modaco cookie, but their pricing system is bobbins anyway.



Fair enough, but maybe with more transparency and not dressed up as news. An add that earns you commision prompted by a press release isn't really news ( despite the tumbleweeds that are blowing through mobiholics!) .

Listing the offer, spec, and terms THEN with a link stating it earns you commision rather than inserting an affilaite code without mentioning it might be the way forward for a trusted website...

You ask for 'thoughts' about the deal, and anyone wishing to comment would need to click the link even if they weren't in the market for broadband.But they might want a new phone in 2 weeks. I have no problem with commisions EARNT through telling me about a great deal etc but persistant cookies? Sneaky....

I note from their affilate terms their cookies last for FORTY FIVE DAYS.

Seems a bit shady to me for a 'news' posting.

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Still seems pricey. I bought a 530 from eBuyer about 5 weeks ago for £249 inc.

So how many commisions from the affilaite link before you can buy one outright without a contract Paul? Contract commisions are what, £100?

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Back on this friday 29th - try using a voucher code as well ;-)

Black Eee 701 @£159
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=172648&partner=uknews

White Eee 701@ £159
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=172649&partner=uknews

Oqo O1+ @ £299
http://www.expansys.com/d.aspx?i=172650&partner=uknews

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